Thought Leaders Thinking: Saul Eslake
If we imagine government fiscal policy as a bridge taking us over the economic disruption of this pandemic, we should be asking one question in particular. In Saul Eslake’s view, that question is: “What sort of roads on the other side of this bridge do we want to build?”
In other words, what policies will allow us to build a resilient economy on the other side of this shock, knowing that economic growth will allow us to overcome what has been lost. We discussed this and more, with a particular focus on the Australian context, with Mr. Eslake. He is, of course, one of our country’s most venerable and respected economists, a current-day Vice-Chancellor's Fellow at the University of Tasmania, and a former Chief Economist at McIntosh Securities, National Mutual Funds Management, Australia & New Zealand Banking Group, and Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
According to Mr. Eslake, Australians are entering a particularly risky period, since many factors that previously protected them from recession will no longer be intact.
“What China has done over the last 30 years is one of the reasons why we went for almost 30 years without having a recession. China has emerged as the world's biggest exporter of manufactured goods and the world's biggest importer of commodities, which has pushed down the price of manufactured goods. China has also pushed up the price of commodities, because it imports them. But we didn't really have much of a manufacturing sector to begin with, and we're an export of commodities. Therefore, we're one of the few countries in the world that runs a trade surplus with China.”
However, Mr. Eslake explained that this privileged position with China is shifting. He forecasts that although this rising super-power will continue to purchase Australian ore, it will increasingly choose other export alternatives when Australian ministers “affect the feelings of the Chinese people, which is their code for saying or doing something that the Communist Party of China doesn't like.”
In general, the writing is on the wall. “We need to be stronger if we’re going to be safer in a more insecure world.” But what will build this strength? Mr. Eslake has a few ideas.
In particular, when it comes to government policy, we should “stop preferencing small businesses, just because they're small”. Rather, government should invest into new businesses, which “are much more likely to be started in industries that have a long-term sustainable future.”
Mr. Eslake argues that statistics show that small businesses do not produce a net gain of more jobs or meaningfully innovate. In fact, “what other figures produced by the tax office show is that one that thing small business is really good at is not paying tax.” Many businesses actively choose to stop growing at the point before they would pay significant taxes.
Additionally, Mr. Eslake foresees “fabulous opportunity for regional Australia” in terms of building hubs for workers who no longer want to commute long distances to work in unsafe high rises. Smaller towns can “play host” to the activities that would have been limited to metropolitan centers previously. “There's a challenge for government here to help build transport and communications infrastructure, the broadband and 5G networks that make it all possible.”
“We can rewrite the geography of Australia in ways that wouldn’t necessarily raise material living standards, but rather improve the lived experience of so many Australians.”